Mr. Wizard OMC Article
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 To: "'wizard@virtualpet.com'" From: David Subject: OMC Good analysis of OMC. That's the first time I've read something that really puts all the pieces of their puzzle together.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Peter To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Re OMC Debacle I don't think you are out to lunch at all. I think we should all get down on our hands and knees and pray that HE might inspire Penske to pick up the pieces. Penske in turn, could pick up Davey Jones as President, and together they could cement 'the deal' that's been floating around with Suzuki. Now, backed by Suzuki's engineering prowess and massive capital reserves, Jones' acknowledged ability and Penske in the role as Chairman, OMC might just get back on its feet. The one criticism I'd make of your excellent OMC assessment is that under "Assets" you missed probably the best asset in the OMC wreckage - the fact that every single member of the boating industry in the World WANTS OMC to make it. You can't put moral support on the balance sheet, but it is nevertheless, a tangible commodity - ask any football coach about it ! The industry - the world - needs a healthy, vigorous level of competition between Mercury & OMC - let alone Yamaha. I trust you'll be keeping a close watch on developments.
Date: 20 Dec 2000 From: R Subject: Re: What's Next for OMC? feature article Well researched and written. Very thoughtful business perspective without the emotion that normally comes into play when talking about boats and motors.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: Jeff Subject: Re: What's Next for OMC? feature article Enjoyed the article, Gary. I really think Suzuki will be a player in the OMC mess.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: bill To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC I think you are right in a lot of areas, but I think you have left out possibly one major player. G.M. A few months ago it was reported that G.M. had bought a large portion of Suzuki and got a seat on it's board of directors. I think Suzuki will be a much bigger player and that GM will slip in the back door and end up with FICHT technology for a song. In the right hands this patent owned by OMC could revolutionize the gas and diesel eng industry with the proper research and development and deep pockets that G.M has. They could sell off OMC boat companies, facilities, etc. at a tax loss. Bottom line get FICHT for nothing. In my opinion that is why Pensky wanted OMC.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: Scott To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Great article! As a six year veteran who successfully "abanoned ship" I really hope that OMC can turn things around. I think Penske and Suzuki would be the best bet, but I agree that it would be a tough sell.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 From: Earl To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: info Dear Mr. Wizard, I have just read the info you wrote on OMC and I was looking to find out where I can located additional articles that you have written. I only came across you because of a link in my boating international e-mail. Do you only comments on the marine industry? I found your information very useful and would like to be kept up on your further writings regarding OMC and other marine industry issues.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: Jeff (again) Please let me know when you update again. I've got some friends that are sponsored by OMC and are interested as well.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: R (again) Subject: Re: What's Next for OMC? feature article I'm a management consultant and the OMC situation is very interesting; I tend to view it "clinically." And since I don't own a Ficht or Four Winns or anything else OMC makes, it's easy to remain detached. Your analysis rang true.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: Larry Subject: Re: What's Next for OMC? feature article Excellent piece, Gary! Best information I've seen anywhere. BARTENDER! Buy this fellow a round, please!

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Rob To:Subject: Omc What about Honda. The have they have the cash and it would give them a world wide dealer network at the stroke of a pen. I know Mercury was really worried that this would happen a few years ago. I don't go with the Suzuki idea they just don't think large enough.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000
From: XXX
To: wizard@virtualpet.com
Dear Mr. Wizard,
Being a seven year employee in the OMC Calhoun facility, I have
seen the ups and downs of business. This is by far the deepest down
that I have endured. Naturally I am not up to date on the emissions
problems and debts, but the product (FICHT in specific) has become
alot more economical on the manufacturing front. I am an engine tester
for OMC on the large motors (30hp-250hp). I have seen the pass fail ratio
increase greatly. The smoothness and runability of the FICHT engines at
present is far better than at any time in the past. It is a truely amazing
product, and would be a technilogical loss if the program is scrapped.
I don't believe I would have a problem gaining employment elsewhere
but like my job and my co-workers, It would be a devastating blow to the
local economy, other plants in the area have also recently had large scale
lay-offs. I most assuredly hope that a reasonable solutin or buy-out
can be reached quickly enough to alow this age-old standby to continue
to survive. Possibly even with the right combination strive.
Thank you for your time, and allowing me to vent my feelings and opinions.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 From: Ten To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Comments on OMC Thank you Wizard for a very good and informative report. It is sad the condition OMC has gotton into. However, as an employee of OMC, I can tell you the problem is not having qualified line employees building the products. A lot of the problem with OMC has been in management and supervision. Millions of dollars has been wasted and bad decision made because of jealosy and coverups by people trying to protect their jobs or get an in for promotion. I hope that someone will purchase the company who really wants to build the best boating products on the market, not just make it big enough to sell the company for a larger profit. There is no reason OMC can not be the number one company with the best financial status in the industry. Truth and honesty will be essential to the efficient operation of this company and its facilities worldwide.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Ron To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC article Who are you?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: rude To: wizard@virtualpet.com We have shut down for good. Permanent lay off effective 12-20-00.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Ad To: polsong@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Closed Was notified this morning that OMC sent Waukegan staff home (laid off) and closed the doors. No further information.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Jack To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: How to Fix OMC Mr. Wizard, First let me say that I have been a fan for some time. I believe your article is on track, except that you failed to mention the consumer and it is the consumer who is demanding four stroke, so technology may or may not be the answer ^Ö remember beta. With that said if I was Ted of monster.com fame and someone was offering me the chance to run a 100 million dollar company, I would implement the following plan: A. Sell what you have that works ^Ö great boats & Johnson outboards. B. Strengthen the relationship with Japanese partner(s) to produce four stroke outboards to meet immediate needs and provide you with environmental credits to continue to sell Johnson outboards. C. Implement a plan to produce four stroke outboards, either jointly or on your own depending on your financial backing. It is here, that Ficht technology, if it is as good as many believe - may allow you to leap from your competitors. Simple yes, but it has been proven over the years that going back to the basics works when you are in the trenches. Ted and his staff are available if you have the checkbook to finance the buyout/takeover. P.S. Ted likes to win, so Ted votes for Ted, no dimple.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Ron To:Subject: Site Visit Gary, Enjoyed your site. There is lots of interesting information that will be useful as we research various companies and industries. By the way, you would not happen to be related to Mr. Wizard would you now? The article on OMC was excellent!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:28:38 -0500 From: F To: polsong@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC files Chapter 11 Employee returned from OMC training center Atlanta, GA this morning from FICHT class. Teacher told students OMC filed chapter 11 and for everyone to leave. Did not finish course or take final test.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:58:03 -0500 From: Mike ColomboTo: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Outboard Marine Newspaper (Rome News-Tribune in Rome,Ga) wants to talk to OMC employees, especially those in Calhoun, Ga., area. Call 706 290-5259 or email MColombo@rn-t.com
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Please don't use my name, but I work for OMC in Andrews, NC. We were informed today that OMC has filed for bankruptcy, and as of tomorrow, we are no longer employed. I have worked there for more than 15 years, and we will receive NO severence pay , our medical insurance will no longer be in effect as of Dec. 31, and we will be receiving NO holiday pay. More info for you, But what an awful way to treat their long-term employees.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: tom To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Options Excellent article and analysis. Thank you, Tom
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:37:37 -0000 From: Matt DiFeboTo: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Cartersville, Ga. newspaper Hello, I am a reporter for The Daily Tribune News in Cartersville, Ga. working on the story about OMC's situation. If there are any employees of the Calhoun, Ga. plant that wish to discuss the situation, especially if they're from Cartersville/Bartow County, please call Matt DiFebo at 770-382-4545. I can also be e-mailed at mdifebo@daily-tribune.com. Thank you, Matt DiFebo
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:39:38 -0500 From: XXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc closings Please do not used my name- I have work at at the OMC of Andrews plant for fourteen years and how they notify us that they were closings the doors was awfully. No formal meeting or nothing is this all we get for all the years we put in. Just a letter in the mail saying its over.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: T To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC I have been an employee at the OMC Burnsville N.C. facility for 16 years. We were told today to gather personal belongings and hit the trail. ( permanent layoff ) I think our ship has sank. Wish someone with some sense would have bought us but no such luck
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: G To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Omc My father works for omc for over 15 years in came in to our shop today add told us that he had no job. Hell of a christmas present. LOVE your page
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:18:57 -0500 From: m To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc As a dealer, I think Peter's logic of keeping Davey Jones around stinks. His methods of improvement were backwards. Hopefully a japanese company will get involved and straighten this mess out.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Matt To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: hmmm I can appreciate the hard work you put into analyzing the situation at OMC, for what seems to be little or no money at all, but I really don't understand why you feel you are an authority on the situation. I don't see you addressing any of the points which I am about to bring up yet you seem inlclined to forcast the companies worth. This is not only intriqueing but irresponsible. 1. In the past 12 years OMC has been through how many presidents? (i think around 11) and even more vice presidents. (fundamental problem) 2. In the past 12 years OMC has hired how many goofy consulting groups? If you have to hire consultants to the magnitude OMC did? Man o Man, "The president to the consultants: Sounds like a great Idea, let's do it! The consultants to the president: Uh,Uh,Uh, We actually just propose ideas we don't Make it Happen" 3. This in my opinion is possibly the total demise of the company. From the early 80's to now, the company was completed de-diversified (is that a word?), anyway, look at brunswick and look at the old omc. Those guys in the 80's sold all the diversification OMC owned. My opinion, many of the uppers got rich while OMC became a one product company with nothing to rely on for profits when things got tough. While brunswick was selling widgets and wodgets and making a bundle while the outboards were killing their pocket book OMC was left saying uh-oh we don't have neir a one widget nor a one wodget to sell. Meanwhile the fat cats were sitting at home saying, I hope I don't burn in hell for liquidating OMC's diversity and putting all their goodies in one pile. To anyone of the current upper management that reads this, I don't mean you, those guys are long gone and know who they are. (Although I do think David Jones and whoever that fat cat vp they just fired over the summer of 2000 were total idiots) 4. An lastly, what about the people. I personally met some of the hardest working, most honest, most ethical people I think I will ever meet in my lifetime while at OMC yet no profit could be realized? Can you, are you going to address this? I know they are there. I remember us as supervisors and engineers busting our ass to get out product for the company on saturday evenings to meet the numbers management put out, hmmm, something else was wrong. You had a product that definately was as good as the competition, the majority of the people busted that ass (about 95% always do) but still no profit. I just don't get it. Seems like something else is going on??? Hmmm, could something else be going on. Could you just get down to it and say somebody raped the company to line their own bank account or someone needed a tax write off. Now that would be news. But what you put up seems irresponsible to me for some reason. Maybe its not, maybe you are doing the best you can. Not trying to knock you personally but come on, hit on some of these facts! People and their families are and will suffer, at least speak up for them in some manner. At least pose the question! At least address a few of these points. Bottomline, the court will sell the proprietary stuff to the highest bidder, somebody will get a big tax break and a lot of good people will worry over Christmas about money. I suppose I will stick to my bottomline with the company I built after my departure from OMC: Make damn sure you have more money coming in than going out. So far this is working.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: J I worked for one of the strongest boat brands in the world for the past 14 years and I have a feeling they will be back as strong as ever. The people of FOUR WINNS have alot to be proud of ! It has been difficult for any of the now, old OMC boat brands to be sucessful, trying to hold up such a poorly managed OMC.I am vary proud of all the hard work that went into such beauitiful product as the FOUR WINNS.FOUR WINNS EMPLOYEES CAN REBUILD ! THEY HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST , THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: XXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC's Troubles Hi, please do not use my name or e-mail address. I work for a competitor of OMC and I have been on the frontline of 4-stroke sales and product development for more than 12 years. In my opinion the problems of OMC falls on the heads of OMC's top management and their Board of Directors. What a shame. This company had over a 60% market share not to long ago and now they are going under. They put out unverified product to consumers, screwed their dealer network and employees and made bad decisions about the future of engine technology, etc... Shame, shame, shame. For example, take the middle 1980's boat company buying spree by OMC. How many millions of $$$ did they spend, and on what: Brand names? And just to keep the Jap's off those transomes. The problem was, any moron can start a boat company because it doesn't take much of a capital investment to start building boats (in the '80's) but it takes a whole lot-O-Money to start building engines to compete in the outboard engine market (Four-Stroke's cost even more.) So, OMC subsidised the low margin boat companies with their high margin (I est. +60% margin) two-stroke outboards. OMC's purchase of boat companies did not dry up avalible boat transomes. Also, their lack of innovation in meeting the upcoming EPA and California emision regulations, and putting all of their eggs in one basket with FICHT was just plain stupid. As any good mechanic knows, the last thing you do to a 2-stroke is to "lean it out". I have gotten to know many frontline OMC employees over the years and they are some of the best people in the industry. The short term thinking of OMC's management, Stockholders, and last, but not least, their Board of Directors is sad. They screwed an old, industry leading company into the ground. What morons.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Well, what can we say? It's been bad at OMC CALHOUN, but never this bad. I've been at OMC CALHOUN for 12 long years, my first real job!! And it really sux!! My husband and myself works there. I've seen a lot of changes. Most of them very stupid ones. Like the Lean, DFT, and Yomo. OMC worked their employees 10/12 hrs a day for 14/20 days straight, a lot of people busted their tails and what did we get?? It really XXXXXX me off that "OUR MANAGEMENT" done this to us. A lot of people will be hurting from this. A lot of Husbands and Wives doing without. I've seen OMC ship bad Quality to just make the numbers, and yes, I work in the Quality Dept. I've worked from the asy lines to the office. When Mr.. Jones fired Bill XXXX, I knew then, he wasn't what he said he was. Bill was wonderful!! He was for the people, I seen him actually work on the asy lines, building like the rest of us. If you could only have seen the look on our faces when Billy XXX announced today would be the last day. It would break your heart. OMC has a lot of good people, they will be sadly missed!!!! We have no insurance, no holiday pay, no job...what are we suppose to do now? All we know is boat motors!!!!

Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Dale To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc As an OMC employee I have to say this sucks! Consider yourself lucky if you got a letter in the mail, many of us have not and had to learn this news off of the local news or even had to call the plant ourselves to find out we are no longer employed. It would have been nice to have had some kind of warning,but what did we expect, we've been getting screwed by OMC for years!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: Lee To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Merry Christmas 'Twas four days before Christmas when the workers were told, "You don't have a job, you're out in the cold." Two years,six years,twelve years,sixteen- Your length of service means nothing. We did all we were asked,some of us more, It matters not now with locks on the doors. No severance,no benefits,nothing we get, For all those long hours of toil and sweat. Our "leaders" betrayed us with decisions unsound, A great corporation has been run aground. I could go on but I guess I'd better polish up my job hunting skills.I'm so lucky, at least I got a gold (for sale,cheap) watch.To all of my (former) co-workers at OMC Andrews:It was great working with you all. Merry Christmas
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: P To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Buy Out Is there a way for the heart and soul of OMC to bargin/buy the company from the present clueless owners? The core of OMC (employees) do have an understanding of the problems. Is there any help for us? Sure some people have to go, but you don't throw away the hole 9 yards. Just a simple thought. Later
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 From: supportTo: Gary Polson Subject: Re: hmmm Thank you for understanding my aggravation. I have friends calling for jobs that I wish I could supply but>......can't right now. Anyway, if you can get my full name and my full email up I would appreciate it. I don't need anonimity from them and am not scared of them. If they sue me and ruin me then life goes on. I will rebuild, but I at least would like to speak as a man and as myself and stand behind what I say. In short I am not asking for confidentiality from you journalist point of view. I ask to speak as myself to the everyone. Matt Smith
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: Mike To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc what does a dedicated omc dealer do about its inventory and debts to omc and floorplan companies????????? please give advice. RBBI RESPONSE BELOW
RBBI RESPONSE TO REQUEST ABOVE Thanks for your comments. I am certainly not qualified to offer legal advice in this area, but here is what I would do If it was out in the middle of the year, I would let the dust settle. I expect in a week or two and maybe sooner some new direction will be found and undertaken by the remains of OMC by them or someone else. Meanwhile I would keep in contact with a few OMC dealer friends I knew and keep each other consoled and posted on the latest updates. But right now at the very end on the year. I think I would go ahead and contact a lawyer with some experience in bankruptcy recovery and just chat about the situation to make sure none of my options expire at the end of the year. If their is a major problem, there will probably be a class action suit brought by all the dealers and maybe other creditors as well. Would just want to make sure there are not options lost by letting it roll over the end of the year, - Might also visit with an accountant on how to handle my taxes and any last minute year end decisions based on the situation. If you or anybody else out there receives any professional advice in this area you can share with us, please drop us a note.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: C To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Mr Wizard. As a "Former" OMC employee for 14 years, I am extremely saddened at the closing of the company. I was in the field for the company and worked a lot more than I was paid to, as do most of the field personnel! This company had one of the most dedicated, loyal and trusting employee base..... The working persons should all be highly commended for the years of hard work and loyalty, not laid-off for Christmas. Dont get me wrong on all upper management, some were very good, while others should have been working in government along with Al G.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: John To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC CLOSING Great site. I am a salaried employee at OMC Waukegan, or was until today. I can say that I got more info from your site than I did from our own company. I was told I didn't have a job to go to through hear say on a phone conversation with a family member. Called the plant and was told not to bother coming to work. WOW Merry Christmas. Any how I find it hard to believe OMC is closed when we are still running production at the Waukegan Facility.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: L To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC CALHOUN SHUTDOWN I find it hard to realize just how malignant the corporate culture at O.M.C. is. I, as an employee of app. 6 years at the Calhoun plant, have watched supervision,manangement and corp. decision makers blame almost all there mistakes on the people who man the production lines. Our people here have been told that they must work overtime hours no matter the damage to their family life, and then are blamed for low production when the managers cannot supply the necessary parts to complete the work. We are then left standing on our production lines, with nothing to do, sometimes for as long as 5 hours out of a 10 hour shift. David Jones tore our 7 powerhead assembly lines down, at the start of peak season, and then combined the fuel injection lines with the carb engines and declared that we should be able to build more product this way despite the difference in the product lines. The training of personal to man these lines was shoddy and then the people were blamed for low quality so the turnover's began and things got worse. But Billy XXXXXX, the plant manager, and Rose XXXXX , the area manager, in there wisdom degree that to solve the problem just build more engines work more hours shove them off the end of the line. to hell with quality build more and stack them up in test and repair stack them in the floor maybe we will get a few good one's. As for the thought that David Jones should be returned to O.M.C. my thoughts are that he should be simply committed to DAVY JONES LOCKER so that he can no longer destroy the lives of hard working people. If any group buy's O.M.C. then they should have marine quality people on board to deal with troubles at our company. This company is malignant to the core in the corp levels and should be scoured clean if we are to have a new start, which I hope we will have. I wish all my shipmate's at O.M.C. lot's of luck and I hope that our prays for a new well ordered company is brought to fruition. Come on out there O.M.C.s production workforce is one of the best in the world. We just need some good instructors
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC...gone but not forgotten Good Morning, Please do not use my name or email (just on the off chance that I do have a job, once someone decides to buy OMC out...) My name is XXX and I have been (or was formerly...now that noone has a job anymore) employed by OMC at the Calhoun plant as an Engine Tester since XXX. 1999. And I think that OMC's latest action has proven to the many loyal workers that the acronym OMC really does mean: Our Management Can't...I for one do not see how we can be soo far behind the production schedule that we must work twenty hours a week overtime, and then within the last thirty days finally went back down to fourty hours a week, and now have closed the doors at the plant...Something doesn't make sense here !!! We produce the most fuel efficient Outboards on the market period. Quality is our Number One Priority (that engine gets checked out like a recruit going to boot camp), Heck, all the FICHT engines meet 2006 EPA standards for the state of California (which are the TOUGHEST emmision standards period) and we can't sell enough motors to keep the doors open? And No one in management knew this was going to happen ? I REALLY FIND THAT VERY HARD TO BELIVE !!!!
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: L To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Comment I was employed by OMC at the Andrews, NC facility. I just found out last night that I no longer had a job and that we were closing the doors. No group meetings, no severence, no compassion, etc. Our employees have worked long hours to help straighten out the mess that was made by trying to outsource connecting rods to China (which they could not make). We feel like we have been RAPED! We have really been putting the units into the warehouse, probably have enough to fill orders for awhile. What I would like to know is can they legally do this to us with no notice? What are our rights? If anyone out there is planning on a lawsuit where the Andrews facility can join in, please email me at labs@dnet.net. Thanks for your site, I have learned more there than from my former employer. By the way, I haven't received my formal letter yet!
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: Jim To:As a 22 year employee who left OMC two years ago when I saw the end coming I feel I must express my feelings. I started out at OMC Evinrude in Milwaukee WI. In 1976. I meet Ralph Evinrude and most of his staff. We owned the outboard industry. During the shift to the south, Calhoun GA was where the main assembly plant location. The poor start up resulted in five plant managers in five years. The result created a view of this plant as the main problem with in OMC well beyond the years it was fixed. The unresolved problems in Waukegan were never addressed. Coupled with this internal vision failure was the failure to acquire Bayliner and Sea Ray when both were offered to OMC in the late 1980's. The mis-managers have now created so much hardships for the people that worked on the shop floors that I feel should be hung.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: t To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Closing My husband worked for OMC in Waukegan for a little over 28 years. He went into work yesterday only to be told to clean out his desk and go home. A letter came in the afternoon by fedex stating that they are closing the plant. They will be paid through Dec 21st and receive no severance pay. Also, any who where close to retirement and where going to in only months time will now have to wait until 65 to receive their pension (60 at a lessened amount). This is a nice "Merry Christmas" from a company that many people put their whole lives into..
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: D To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Waste and Cover-up Maybe if OMC didn't spend all that money killing seagulls at the Waukegan plant, because a few of the executives cars were getting crapped on, they wouldn't have to layoff their employees. It all started very simple but after the federal fish and wildlife people got involved it became an expensive cover-up. If you want to read a sad story with a bunch of liars in it, go to the the Illinois Pollution Control Board website and read the hearing transcripts. Please sign me Voice
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: C To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: comments re OMC Mr. Wizard - excellent analysis of the situation at OMC. It will be a steal for someone interested in taking on a business with poor management. Poor David Jones, never got all the rats out of the woodwork at the corporate home front and Bob Gowens made some very expensive decisions... $20mil to buy machining equipment for added capacity.... that was like throwing money in the toilet. Thus goes the saga for OMC. A Penske buy would be ideal, but probably a fairy tale. Thanks for your expert thoughts.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: j To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc Excellent article Gary, well research and authoritatively written. What I read rings true. I've been in the industry from the dealer side for a number of years and can attest to much of what you pointed out. I do think that the desire of most in the industry for OMC to succeed will play a significant role in OMC, as a "mainstay" surviving this tumultuous time. FICHT troubles proved, I think, to be the level of emergency bouancy but in the right hands technologically and managerially can once again make OMC a mover and shaker, there is merit there.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: R To: Gary Subject: Re: OMC's Troubles The Miami Boat show in Feb 2001 is going to be a strange sight with a big hole where OMC used to be on display. OMC's failing is like GMC crashing in the automobile industry. The boating industry will never be the same again.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:18:16 -0500 From: D To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: It's Penske with an 'e' please... RBBI comment, woops! Mr. Wizard has trouble with the keyboard sometimes.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:22:14 -0600 From: R To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Job Opportunities Mr. Wizard: My heart goes out to the people at the OMC facility. I do not understand why they have to do this at Christmas and in the cold weather. Makes no sense. On a more positive note I am a recruiter and currently looking for people in AR, TX, TN and MO, I especially need people who have experience in two cycle engines. Unfortunately these are professional positions and will not be any help to those on the line that are the meat and potatoes of the plant. Any one who would be interested can reach us at: Advanced Recruiting Technologies PO Box 94340 Little Rock, AR 72190 PHONE: 501.812.6200 or www.advancedrtec.com
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: R To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc andrews,n.c. I have worked at OMC for over 15 years and I have never seen it this low. We were told today Dec. 20,2000 that OMC would be shutting it's doors. I was very upset. We were left hanging high and dry. I feel this is a bad way to treat your employees,after they have given such length of service. I didn,t even get to recieve my 15 year service award, which was up in Oct. 2000. "Thanks you very much". Maybe there is some way the state can find a factory that will try to stay in the running longer than OMC did. I know that all my friends at OMC Andrews would like to see each other in the near futher. Thank for letting me vent my feeling! UNEMPLOYED.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc closing Well Mr. Wizard you will get the same story out of me as you have everyone else. I have worked for OMC 5-6 years and to just be told that you not needed by letter is inexcusable. We at the Calhoun Plant asked for months is we were going to close and asked to have a plant wide meeting but that did not happen because in typical OMC way --The Gutless Way-- they just laid us off and sent us a letter. We were told today that this decision was just made a couple days ago well I don't believe it but if it is true then it shows how idiotic OMC management is. I hope you keep us informed because this is a tough blow to Calhoun and its economy. Keep all the good work coming!!!
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: Kelie & Doug B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: To All OMC Employees The thoughts and prayers are with you all This Christmas....
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: R & B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC We are retirees, what can we expect about our pension, management incentive pension and health insurance, will it continue? RBBI Response Below
RBBI Response to Above Question Suggest you gather all you pension, health, etc policies together and visit with an accountant in an area (city) with a major OMC facility. They should be familiar with the program and be able to find out if the retirement program is some form of guaranteed pension (insured) in some fashion and may have an understanding of the other programs as well. I would expect quite a bit of information of this nature to come forward from some group (maybe the local union or a credit union office) after all the dust settles.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: Roger To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC-Calhoun closing As a former employee of OMC-Calhoun, I seen the ship sinking 3 years ago after Green Marine took over. They blew millions upon millions of dollars on consulting firms to let them tell them what was wrong with the company they had just bought. The problem with this was they didn't use this information to solve any of the problems.It was like they looked away. This money could have been better spent on other things such as a little more research on the Ficht (found in calhoun having trouble) technology. They pushed Ficht on to the market without even knowing whether they had all the bugs out. This has always has been the problem with this company. They test and research their product in the field. OMC was letting the customer test the new product. We took thousands of motors back out of the box and reworked them after boaters were stranded out on the lake where they thought they were going to have fun. Management at Calhoun was coming and going. People who had no knowledge of the business or the product were being put in supervision rolls. Some one in these positions should know the product. A compay is in bad shape when management doesn's know the product I seen all of the management that knew the outboard business sent out the door. How can great employees follow a managemet that is blind to the business. I left OMC over a year ago because I knew what was about to happen to OMC. It was a hard decision to make after investing 11 years in company. I miss my job at OMC. I enjoyed what I did. My thoughts and prayers go out to my former fellow team mates. P.S. Without sight how can there be a vision. My opinion: Green Marine should have taken there small loss 3 years ago and let Detroit Diesel and Roger Penske take OMC where they should have been, at the top of the marine industry.
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 From: f To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: News Well boys they waited until Friday to decide to file for Chapter 11. Guess they decided they really didn't want to have to pay their creditors after all...........................................or at least right now.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: C & B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC BURNSVILLE Wizard, I have been a faithful employee of OMC for 16 & 1/2 years. When GREED-MARINE bought us, we all kind of knew it was over. We knew they knew nothing about the marine industry. They were just an acquisition company; buying & liquidating. Penski should have been allowed to buy us out. But, NO.....there was too much stock owned, 40%, then you had all the idiots like Jim XXXXXX who was given stock & all the bigwigs who ALL held out for the highest bidder. You now see where that got us & now, they don't give a damned about us. We ARE the back bone of OMC; the hourly paid employees. OMC ..... "OLD MENS CLUB" is what has happened to us. They are enjoying their lives, but don't give a crap about us. Maybe David Jones, Suzuki, & Penski can come in & straighten us out. It's our ONLY hope. Where is Lee Iacoca when we need him? Have a merry Christmas?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: Jim To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC My heart goes out to all of the employees of omc that have lost their jobs at this most inoppurtune time. But, please try to also remember in their prayers the dealers that stood up and bought a years or more worth of inventory to help satisfy the needs of the company for engine orders. We are now left with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product that we have absolutely no idea of what its value may be except as some real quality used parts. We too depended on OMC's committments, parts plans based on orders, engine rebate plans based on orders, oil and accessory programs based on orders. All of which we wholeheartedly participated in to further our position in the industry and to assist our partners omc with their goals. We were first made aware of the problems by a faxed letter explaining of the extended shutdown of OMC, the rest of the info has came from different sources on the internet. So, I guess all that is left to do is figure out what to do with this $700,000.00 worth of OMC engines that meet all of the epa requirements but dont have any warranty and the roughly $150,000.00 we have in parts and accessories. Sure wish We had been a liitle better informed.

Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: STEVE To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC This message is to Marine Execs, board members, Industry leaders. I read in some of the feedback that OMC's greatest asset was it's people, this is a fact that is not in dispute ! some of us are no longer employed, some of us haven't left yet. but we can all be reached by phone or mail, more importantly we know how to design, manufacture, market, and service the best Marine products/engines in the world. we know right from wrong, no matter what the decision, you know as we do, lately there has been many wrong ones. please consider the future of OMC and it's people, we yearn for great leadership and the opportunity to continue to do what we know and love best. OMC people are the finest anywhere.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:43:15 -0500 From: Sis To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Friends I just want to say to my friends, that you made OMC a better place to work and I Will miss all of you. I made alot of friends at OMC Andrews N.C. I especially want to say thanks to department 41, we had fun and am proud to called each of my friend. Margaret ------ White devil,
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: Brian To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Lowe Boats, Lebanon Mo. To everyone in the OMC family....I'd like to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Better New Year....I worked in the Lowe Boat plant for 14 years. I've had the priviledge to meet many OMC associates (set-up crews) working the boat shows around the country. These guys were some of the hardest and dedicated workers that OMC had....I have no doubt that these men and women including my associates that worked in my dept. here at Lowe, will be an assest to any company that employs them. I will miss them and always remember their dedication and hard work. Here is our newpaper article on the Lowe Boat shut down in the Lebanon Daily Record.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: Gary To: Jeff Subject: RE: What's Next for OMC? feature article > Gary, > Can't seem to get into the site today (Friday, 11:50 AM, est). Have the OMC > attorneys shut you down? : RBBI Response No, we were taking EXTREMELY HEAVY traffic and can only transfer 200 meg in each 24 hour period per our provider. They walk the cumulative total each hour (When you hit the wall you get more time when the next hour starts equal the them time you used in that hour 24 hours ago - if that makes any sense). I was frantically trying to offload the graphics and some of the individual pages to some other servers we use. Finally got it calmed down and balanced a little in the early afternoon. We smoked the traffic counter. And things did not totally settle down here till about 1 am this morning. Gary & Mr. Wizard
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: Tim To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: fitch First of all I feel bad for the OMC employees but as far as the co. is concerned I am having a hard time feeling too bad. I feel fitch really drained alot of money and good reputation from the co . DI is very complex and OMC already had a license with Orbital for their low pressure DI system. That system was tested for YEARS and YEARS(and is working great for Mercury). Rather than paying a little bit for royalties they tried to go it alone which they still couldn't do without patent suit problems which OMC lost. What really irritates me, was that as soon as fitch equiped motors came out and I mean as SOON as they came out there were OVERWHELMING problems. What that tells me is that there was very little durability testing of this system. Actually I think it was tested... on the initial consumers. I think that was a cheap lowly trick, I dont know how they didn't know that there were widespread problems with that system any amount of testing would have shown it. OMC's reputation went downhill fast afer that. If you follow the message boards you know that there were lots of unhappy consumers. So I guess OMC got what it deserved, unfortunately the facory workers pay the price for OMC poor business practices. As a side note I am not a unhappy OMC customer I just follow DI technology and saw this coming along time ago.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: CAJAYHAWKERS@aol.com To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: I represent a large northern california dealership. I am interested in good caliber people to staff our parts, warranty, and service departments. We are a 9 store chain, and one of the oldest dealerships in the country. We offer very competitive wages, a great work environment, and relocation assistance. If anyone is interested in a postion, e-mail me at cajayhawkers@aol.com.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Demise Please keep me anonymous. I have read a lot of about comments about the demise of OMC on many internet sites. Several have commented about how great they thought David Jones was and Bob Gowens was. Well not in my view, now being an unemployed OMC person.Those two guys didn't get fired for nothing and it certainly was not because of technology (FICHT- spell it right). They made bad decisions. It was these two guys who made the ultimate decisions that led to bankruptcy. They alone managed to lose more money in one year that any other of their predecessors. Against recommendations they decided to outsource critical components that the company had been successfully manufacturing for decades. Against recommendations they decided to outsource parts whose new manufacturing processes were not thoroughly validated. Those companies then couldn't meet production and quality needs. (By the way those companies are/were now making good parts) So if we have to find blame for the company's demise then look at them and Greenway for not listening to and trusting their advisors and employees.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: S To: polsong@virtualpet.com Subject: Friends from Chicago land reported that they saw David Jones depositing a bonus check for fiscal 2000 from Brunswick! Can this be true?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 200) From: Roger To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC closing As an EX-OMC employee, I am largely disturbed about the abrupt closing with no noitice. Are you aware of any law or regulation that requires a company to give notice before a company closes or greatly reduces the number of employees (ie. Warren Act). My father-in-law worked in a factory in Wisconsin and that company was required to file its intention with the state 60 days prior to any such actions. Perhaps Illinois is different? Thanks!
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: R & B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Health Insurance Have you heard anymore concerning pension & continued health insurance coverage for retirees? Could you contact us with any future information concerning retirees? Thanks
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:19:07 -0500 From: R & B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Your reporting Your reporting is absolutely wonderful, sad as this whole mess is!!! I believe the employees are still in a state of shock. I know as retirees 1989, we are in a state of shock, we are accessing our options. We are elderly, with no insurance & possibly no income. Where are we supposed to earn the income just for our health insurance and for my husbands prescriptions. This is devastating to the 1,000's of loyal and true past & present of OMC. Please continue to keep us informed, Thank You
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:47:46 -0600 From: n To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Re OMC We as OMC dealers across the nation should get together and pray. Instead of all trying to point the finger lets come together and two or three agree and pray on this situation for the best outcome. We all need the best to happen not point fingers or call names. Lets pray for the future and for each and every family out there involved in this situation. The Bible tells us if we will gather two or three in His presence we will answer our prayers. So all you thousands out there with this being the Season and Jesus the reason lets all get down on our knees and pray for the best outcome for us all. God Bless You All and A Merry Christmas and lets all intercede and pray for the best year of the boating industry yet come.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: Doug To: Gary PolsonSubject: Re: To All OMC Employees Thanks for the encouragement / support during this challenging time for a lot of people. By the way, my name is Douglas Becker, I am / was a V-engine Program Manger for OMC at the Waukegan PDC Facility. I still hope OMC has a chance, and am hopeful that management everywhere will learn something from this unfortunate circumstance.... You may print....
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: g To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC I worked at OMC Milwaukee for 31 years, and seen a lot of screw ups. The one that broke the its back was closing Milwaukee the way they did. They did not no if the venders they got, could even make the parts they wanted, or if they could make them good in many cases they lost on both ends. I am not sure how many million dollars it took to move the broken down equipment we had but it was a lot. Then to top it off they asked us to go along with this equipment and train the people to run it. In most cases we also ended up running production because they could not run enough parts. The people who were doing this were averaging well over $3,000.00 a week. As of the time they closed this was still a problem. I could go on for pages about what went wrong but back in the 80's OMC went south we had 70% of the market Mercury went north and look were they are now. Good luck to all OMC people we pay for there mistakes there lifestyle will not change one bit. But the lives of more than 7000 people who gave ther all will change forever, rember there is life after OMC
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 From: michael To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC - ONLY IN AMERICA! Here we have a country (USA) with its chest thrust forward, telling the world how to run their affairs etc. Meanwhile OMC executives (revolving door) were using the big stick (45 gun) with any of their talented employees to do the impossible in double quick time or your replaced! Anyone who speaks out - gets fired, no matter how close to the truth their comments were or proved to be, or how valuable they were to OMC. I am a great believer in tradition, I didn't want to give up my carby Johnson 175HP for 'anything'. But its taken over 3 years for me to see what the FICHT technology can do for 2 stroke outboards (and diesel etc). I run both an inboard chevy for a ski boat, and a 175 JO outboard for fishing/diving etc. As an employee of OMC for a 'lifetime' I watched the birth and problems with FICHT technology, with great interest. The philosophy of FICHT is brilliant, the implementation/testing was not. This current FICHT RUDE RAM (what a name) is the future in 2 stroke technology. Whoever gets it now is on a winner, its a shame to see the OMC name may not be behind it anymore, it must make Ollie Evinrude shudder in his grave. Internationally the OMC divisions are doing well - local management not using fear tactics, to achieve targets etc. A profitable business indeed. Its hard to put your finger on any single problem with OMC, lots of decisions made by so called 'executives' or 'consultants' brought in from outside at great expense, normally for a short period until the expense budgets melted or their incompetance finally shone through. All the while local people who understood the marine business were overlooked in favour of the new wave in business management. My guess for the future - separate the motors from the boats! The boatcompanies are useful - use the funding to fire up a leaner motor manufacturing/assembly function concentrating on FICHT technology to replace carbs asap. OMC cannot make enough motors to satisfy demand, huge backorders. Yes, there were supply problems from vendors, but we chose the vendors.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: Kim Valery To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Hello and thanks I am a former OMC employee from Beloit P & A, distribution/warehouse in Beloit, WI. Is it possible to let me know about any jobs in the Southern, KY or Northern, TN area. I worked at the Parts and accessories Warehouse for 23 years Plus! the last 4 years, I also did the returns goods function. any more questions e mail me at kmvalry@aol.com Thanks for any help you can give! Mr. Kim J. Valery

Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 From: M To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Future As a now 'unemployed' OMC employee, I could care less about the future of OMC/execs/management that put us in this position. My only hope is that the engine and boat companies be sold (individually would be fine by me!) so we can all go back to work. Not only would we have our jobs back, but the OMC execs and management that made decisions in haste without researching the consequences would know what it is like to be unemployed. I do, however, feel for the retirees...may their future hold positive and this mess be put behind them.
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 From: Joel To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Loyal dealers are devastated We have been an exclusive OMC dealership for most of our business life. Now, we see little hope. We sell Boats and Engines made by one company. I have not a clue of what to do next. It seems to me that we have product without warranty both in our stores and in the customers driveway. What is next. Do we call our floorplan company and tell them that we have spent $1,000,000.00 on product that will not sell for what we paid for it? Anyone with ideas , please post them Thanks
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 From: XXXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: PLEASE DONT USE MY EMAIL PLEASE do not post my name or email, but I saw your message board had listings for employment recruiters. This is a warning about a penalty using job recruiters: A bit of advice -- please have OMC people send resume's ON THEIR OWN FIRST!! My husband applied for a job at a Boat Manufacturing plant this past summer using Marine Recruiers. This was for a 'dream job". He was most qualified of ALL applicants, but the HIGH fees the recruiter charged PLACED HIM OUT OF CONTENTION! He didn't get the job. The job went to an individual who was on his own. The manufacturer TOLD him that if he didn't use this recruiter, the job would have gone to him. Just beware -- using a recruiter is a BAD idea sometimes! Use only as a LAST resort.
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:02:22 -0500 From: c To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC My sister poured 29 years of her heart and soul into this company in several cutting edge Sales, Marketing and Customer Service positions. She was the "go to girl" when things were FUBAR, to get employees to do their best inspite of their instinctual sense to flee the ailing giant. She was counted on to carry Management's message to those that interacted with customers and dealers on a daily basis to be productive, proactive and cost efficient....for "The Team", no matter who the current incompetents where, no matter the condition of the industry. For 29 years of dedicated, loyal service to "The Team", she was called to a meeting, along with several others, to be told they were all going to be terminated because of the troubles and bankruptcy. Everyone, regardless of tenure, was awarded 1 day severance for their loyalty and dedication. This insult was not to be the final insult, though. Later on it became apparent that not everyone at the meeting got axed. Those pople knew they were going to make this cut but were compelled to attend.........(management) safety in numbers. I guess the adage "Misery loves company" can now be twisted into an obscene sneak attack at the last vestige of an individuals dignity. I don't know the names of the shameless snakes that orchestrated this final indignity, but who could blame my sister and her fellow OMC "go to people" for finding these scum bags and fileting them in public? As much as the "old timers" who got sacrificed last week took another one for "The Team", these current management horrors should be compelled to take one for their present part, and the parts precedent who now own marinas, for the abject failure of an investor group and management succession that allowed several of the finest names in Boating go down in this manner. OMC and her people deserved better. Not to mention the market. A pox on you and your conferderates, now and forever! To my sister, and the OMC'ers, prayers and best wishes. You'll never completely know the example your loyalty and dedication set for many other workers across this country. Thanks.
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Insurance and benefits?? Wizard, I am in a query about our pension and health insurance. PLEASE do not use my name or address. I have been a faithful employee for 17 years and have discovered a chronic liver problem this past year. I can't even get burial insurance, much less the life & health insurance. Where do we, ex-employees stand as far as the insurance programs go from OMC Burnsville, NC????
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 From: W To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Andrews Andrews X'S, I thank each and everyone of the people that help to train me at this plant if it wasn't for all of your "Patience and Understanding" I wouldn't have made it for the 8 month I did... Unfortunately this is the second time in one year I have been employed at a plant that has "Closed its Doors" and let it employees go at the worst time of the year...except my other employer was much more understanding to its employees... "Bit of Wisdom": GLOOM, Boredom, and Unhappiness make no headway against Enthusiasm. Yes, I am aggravated too about how OMC did this... I have always been TOLD...by my father now brother who has been in the Marine Business since 1958... Get a JOHNSON or EVINRUDE and these were the only engines we have ever owned on our boats... Is this the end of some great engines / employees or maybe a new beginning...for all...? Wendy

Date: 26 Dec 00 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Burnsville First of all, don't use my name or my email address.I was employed by OMC Burnsville for 5 years. While I was there, I hurt my hands. The management shunned me for this and was bumped off my job and was sent to another department in hopes I would quit. I had to get a lawyer to help me fight this. The department I was sent to work had a hostile enviroment and when a few of us went to the plant manager to discuss this, we ended up in the personnel manager's office and was issued a warning slip. Frankly, if you ask me, I'm tickled to death to see this place close. I'm sorry for all the assembly people losing their jobs,but for the management, well what goes around comes around, and you finally got yours.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: P To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Stratos Boats I think a lot of your comments are probably pretty close to the mark, But you have not mentioned possible buyers for the individual boat companies. My gut tells me Earl Bentz is going to try and buy the Stratos-Javelin group because he was quoted as saying he would someday own Stratos again. Stratos was his baby and it would be a boost for him to have it back. As far as all the OMC employees I feel for them, for this to come out at this time of year is devastating, But I think a lot of them may get there jobs back working for new employers in the same plants. The OMC name is far to big to just go away, there is definitely sales of these groups that are going to happen, I only pray it is fast and painless. All of us in the industry had high hopes for Greenway when they bought OMC , But know it seems they were just another giant looking for write offs.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: Joel To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: any news about sale of OMC? Mr. Wizard, I am suffering with this. Is there any news about the sale of all or part of OMC?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: M To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Thanks for service to the good former employees of OMC This is a very tough time for all of us former OMC employees. We can all learn a lesson about this modern economy and the folly of placing our faith corporate America. Fortunately, at this time of the year, we are reminded of the words spoken by angel many years ago, "Do not be afraid, I bring you good news of a great joy. A savior is born for you this day, Christ the Lord." Our faith in Him will not go unrewarded. I only invested 16 months at OMC. I saw some very positive things at OMC that could make it a good investment for buyer with competent, stable leadership. Great products, great people (if any could be enticed to come back), a good manufacturing system, a great heritage. It can be made into a 1st class operation. Mr. Wizard, thank-you for your information, and your willingness to help us. May God bless you.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: Nancy To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Hi, Just wanted you to know that when I clicked on Mercury Job Openings,,,,,,,guess what it said? It said "Ha.........." and at the bottom, "TOUGH LUCK". Whoever did this is a heartless, inhuman sorry excuse for a "person". Apparently they didn't realize how much we, former OMC employees, are suffering right now, emotionally, and moneywise. It is very hard for alot of us to even sleep at night. Thank God my kids are grown, alot of my friends at OMC Andrews have little children, and what kind of Christmas did they have? Over 300 GOOD employees lost their jobs at Andrews, we were the #1 plant as far as quality, getting our parts to our customers on time, etc. For years, we held this position. It just amazes and saddens me that some people in other boat motor facilities are taking great pleasure in this great loss. Of course they are (or were) our number 1 competitor, but we are people with families just like them. If anyone from OMC Andrews reads this, I want to say thanks for being my friends, and try to stay in touch. Nancy RBBI Response We checked the link last night, this morning and again just now (4:30 PM Central Dec 26) and it is fine. Is possible someone did something rude, but it appears to be corrected now.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Please don' t use my name. As an OMC employee laid off four days before Christmas, I feel for all of my fellow employees. Never have I had the pleasure to work with a more competent bunch, and I only refer to the group that includes plant workers, technicians, engineers, designers, SOME (but not all) of the managers, clerical staff, boat testers, etc. The sad lesson is that until we realize that these overstuffed IDIOTS that we call CEOs, CFOs, VPs, etc. are only on an ego trip, and are not worth half the salary that they get paid, then we will continue to be non-competitive and get kicked around by foreign industry (primarily the Japanese). I do not say this as a slur to the Japanese. At least their CEOs are not paid the exorbitant salaries that ours are! Take David Jones, this fool came from our ARCH RIVAL! Did anyone honestly believe that he really gave a hoot about OMC, this was just an ego trip for him. What did he really have at stake, for all his blundering, he had his golden parachute! Why should he care about the people who depended on OMC for their livelihood, who sacrificed everything in hopes of making a difference, who believed (as I still do) that we had the best outboard engines in the world, and that with some hard work and dedication, could make the Johnson and Evinrude names stand proud once again. Another sad bunch are the people he put in place, who could not make a decision to save their own lives. Why was it that we were told in May 2000 that some future projects would be shelved so that we could concentrate on our core competencies (outboards) and yet none of the talent from these projects actually came to work on outboards until OCTOBER, when it was sadly too late! Until we make it so that the people in these positions actually have something to lose, then I suppose they will continue to act recklessly when it comes to the lives of others.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: Pglenginer@aol.com To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Possible Job Openings for Ex. OMC Employees Power Great Lakes, a manufacturer of gasoline and diesel power units for the Industrial Market, has positions open in their Engineering Department for people with engine experience for design engineers, draftsmen, test technicians and technical publications. Resumes can be emailed to pglenginer@AOL.com to the attention of the Engineering Manager.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:43:56 -0800 From: H To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Spruce Pine I worked for OMC for 4 years. In July of 1997, I had a door jam on my hand. It took 6 months for the company Doctor to do my surgery for trama caused corpal tunnel, the Doctor wouldn't give me anything for the pain because I was on workers comp. I worked 8 months in 3 years, I am 34 years old and "retired into my disability" as of January of this year. I also had to get a lawyer to get my workers comp started and for them to pay my medical bills. I finally received my settlement in February of this year, but all of our bills were so far behind from waiting sometimes 6 weeks to get my OMC short term disability check, there wasn't any left. I was placed on cobra insurance in January, it's just $180.00 a month for me and a extra $200.00 for anyone else I had added to it. All the nerve damage, muscle, tendons and bone disease I ended up with from the accident, I couldn't get any other insurance. There is usually a week or two between months for the cobra insurance to activate your card, so you have to pay full cost until they reactivate it. My medicine is $30.00 a day, when I have to pay for it. I was told from employees that I had been done the worst than anyone employeed there since it opened. I have not had a life since July of 1997. I just want to thank Harold Smith for all he did for my family. Harold was our plant manager a year after I got hurt, he made sure I was done fair.

Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: Rick To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: INFO Dear Mr. Wizard, I think Transamerica Finance may be canidate to buy out OMC, They have a lot of the inventory financed.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: Richard To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc Waukegan Did another company buy out omc in Wakegan? One of my family members heard that on the tv news or the radio is it true? What is going on can you send me more info. about it i want to know please.
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:46:03 -0800 From: B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC BURNSVILLE SHUT DOWN To whom it may concern I have been emplyed by OMC Burnsville for 15 years. I think the way that they handle the lay offall employed was a shame because they way we learn of the sut down was 13news and fellow employees We thought that they should have enough ball to tell us what was going on and all employees and familys feel the same way They sure know how to throw the ball at you for Christmas Mad in Burnsville
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 From: Kim To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Out of aJob I'm was an employee of OMC Burnsville,NC.Just want to say to my fellow co-workers that I'll miss you and may God bless us all this coming year with great things. Maybe we will cross each others path again. I hate it but God is in control and he will never forsake or leave his own.IT HAS BEEN GREAT working with everyone at Burnsville the past 15 yrs. PS You all are in my prayers Kim
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:59:23 -0500 From: S To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: George Soros We are all curious as to what George Soros cmment is about omc closings and that 7000 people are out of a job because of poor mangement.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: Chris To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Who will buy OMC? Dear Mr. Wizard, I am an independent boat rep and grew up in the business all my life. My father was also an independent boat rep before and after all the buyouts in the late 80's. He wrote a letter then predicting this would happen when the engine companies bought the independent boatbuilder saying that they would not be profitable and would eventually sale off. Brunswick has already spun it's aluminum divisions (Starcraft,Fisher, Monarch,and Spectrum) and bass boat divisions (Procraft and Astro) and locked them into 10 year contracts for engines and the end result for Brunswick was good. Now with OMC in there desperate situation I think there boat companies will be spun off and locked into engine deals for the outboards and Chris-Craft and Four-Winns could possibly start offering mercruiser power optional. I think that Bombardier will end up with the engine side of the business if not them then Suzuki as a second choice. On the bass boat side (Stratos and Javelin) I believe if the price is right then Jack White previous owner of Procraft/Astro will end up with it, due to his ego and a good deal. Lowe Aluminum could very easily end up back with the Lowe Family. Princecraft would end up possibly with a Canadian outfit or with the success of Genmar in the Aluminum Boat Industry, Erwin could end up with both Lowe and Princecraft. Hydrasport is an excellent Saltwater name and I think will sale very quickly and quite possibly to some of the old Hydrasport crew. Chris-Craft I think will end up with Erwin Jacobs at Genmar since he was outbidded in the late 80's and also to the proxiamety next to Wellcraft/Aquasport. He could build all three labels at VEC facility down in Florida and also it makes since for Genmar due to there runabout line up they do not have an up scale line of boats to compete with Cobalt , Sea-Ray or Chaparrel. Sea Swirl could end up with a builder on the west coast or consolidated with Hydrasport as an entry level boat built in the same factory as Hydrasport. Of course all this information is all speculative but I think some of it is dead on. Again for all those OMC employees who were let go my thoughts and prayers go out to you and I wish you and your family well. Sincerely, Boatrep
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: John To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: New Boat I ordered a new Hydra-Sport this past October and was told it would not be in till April. Last week I get a call that my boat is in well ahead of schedule. I was told it was early because they were building that boat at the time. Well, now with all the OMC problems and the fact that I had to put up several thousand dollars to order the boat any idea what my options are? John
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Thank you all OMC employees for your hard work & dedication. Especially the boat division. From a dealers point of view it is hard to swallow the hard hit we have been thrown. We have been solely OMC since day one (12yrs). What to do with over 1.8mil in stock?????? Thanks to the big guys for pressuring big orders offering large rebates !!!!!!!!! Should have known it sounded to good to be true. Don't list my name or e-mail
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: XXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC executive stay packages A little known fact that few know about the staying CEO and President of OMC, Roger Fix. Few people know or realize that Roger Fix is being paid $5 million to close OMC for good. This is to supplament his $500,000 annual salary during these "hard times." Not bad for guiding a 80-year legend in the marine industry into financial ruin within 6 short months of tenure. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Mr. Fix, you should be proud.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: Margaret To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc retirees My husband is retired from OMC and I was laid off on Dec. 1st from the Andrews facility. We were sent the paperwork to enroll in retiree insurance but have not heard if this is going to happen on Jan. 1st 2001 when it is supposed to be in effect. I have repeatedly tried to call the OMC corp. service center and Jim XXXX, whose name was on the so sorry you have no chance of getting a job back were closed letter. I would like to know if there is anything we can do to get information about retirement insurance. We have been treated so badly it is hard to trust anything these bozos tell you. The people I worked with as operators, office personnel, engineers, etc. were super. However, the top management is the worst and will continue to be as long as greed is all that is operating at the top. I worked at OMC for 15 + years and enjoyed my job very much. But I never had much confidence in the top management people at corp. offices. Please continue to update us on any information you have. We are receiving nothing but silence from the people we worked so hard for so many year. M RBBI COMMENT: We are covering retirement and other employee questions on our OMC Employee FAQ Page
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:39:22 EST From: To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Leads for OMC people Rampage Sport Fishing Yachts, a Division of KCS International just built a 300,000 sq. FT. plus building in Wilmington NC. They are looking for all positions from management to line jobs. If your interested call our headquarters @ KCS International 920-834-2211 and ask for Penny. She can direct you to the HR person for the North Carolina Plant.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:52:16 -0500 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Closing Please do not use this e-mail address or name! It just makes me wonder that at the OMC Burnsville plant we have several top management from Mercury. Does this mean they get a big bonus from both OMC and Mercury and then go back to their cushy jobs at Mercury? The plant manager at OMC Spruce Pine handed out checks and talked to everyone that came by their facility, what happened to Randy XXXXXXXX? Every day he personally gives a list to the security guard on who can come thru the gate. Is he having a conscious problem? Why start now Randy? You have never given a damn about us dumb mountain people!
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:30:47 -0600 From: P To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Envision Boats Inc. Envision Boats Inc. is interested in the following disciplines: * Engineering: Prototype and mold construction. * Lamination: Experience in hand lay-up and quality assurance. * Finishing: Post bonding and construction. For further information concerning a future in the construction, growth and quality of a premier boat brand within the 26' - 36' sport boat category contact Mr. Vic Metigan (Vice President) or Thomas Prince (President)at 1.800.979.9323. Please respond only if you are interested in construction of quality family sport boats and have a desire to be a part of a successful team. Please contact: Vic Metigan Envision Boats Inc. P.O. Box 706 Monmouth, IL 61462 Email: envision@maplecity.com
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: b To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC closing I worked for OMC at the four winns plant in Cadillac Michigan for the past six and a half years and I am saddened to see my job go away. If the plant here in cadillac closes permanently, it will be a devastating blow to this small community that is starting to feel the full effects of a slowing economy. This shut down comes at very bad time for many of us and it would have been nice if we would have seen this coming a month or so ago. The dead of winter is a rotten time to become suddenly unemployed. I feel that OMC has played dirty with us (the non-management employees) in the past and I hope that this corporation is broken up and sold off so that If four winns and all the other companies owned by OMC find new owners, they will treat us more fairly than OMC did. Thank you for your time and God bless,
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: D To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Don't use my name I've been a Four Winns employee since 1989,and since the Winns family got out of the ball game, it seems as though everything started going down hill from that point on with the Four Winns plant in Cadillac Mi. I had to tell my 8 year old daughter that there isn't a Santa Claus ,,and that the Christmas thing is going to have to wait untill we have some kind of income.That's pretty sad.I hope that if Four Winns is going to be re opened,that the owners will care enough to make sure that in case of a problem with the company,that people are informed in advance to give employees time to prepare for such a devastating blow. Us pee on's are the ones that made them Mr. Fix's all there money. John Winn CARED about the important ones. I hope that if we get a new owner that it would be someone who cares about the ones who makes them there money.Untill then what do we do? Wait till unemployment is just about ready to run out,then go searching and leaving a trade that you can't find unless you relocate.

Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: Dawn To: wizard@virtualpet.com This is to comment from the e-mail you received on Dec. 26th from the OMC Burnsville worker who says '...I think its a good thing closing down...what comes around, goes around...' I think this person really spoke out in anger for a personal 'wrong' that was maybe or maybe not done to them. OMC shutting down will affect alot of people, not only the plant worker (but I suppose plant/union workers generally are only able to think of themselves). It will also affect alot of consumers, buying product with 'no warranty, no parts to fix, etc., alot of people cannot afford to have bought a new boat, new motor, etc., making payments, and then are left to fend for themselves if something goes wrong with the product. Also, the dealers, who have bought and sold, and bought, and bought more inventory, gearing up for the boat show season, and for this next year, who have not anticipated something like this happening, and who will be making interest payments and interest payments to a bank and/or banks for product that they will never sell...alot of these dealers being 'mom and pop', hard-working businesses, who will have to declare bankruptcy themselves because of OMC's 'shutting down'. It will also affect alot of sales representatives of OMC and alot of OMC's service people who have dedicated themselves, their lives, and their families' lives to the income generated by OMC's paychecks each week. They will be unemployed, their family set-back until they regain themselves until months job-searching, paying back money borrowed, and spending their savings to get them through. ALOT OF THINGS WILL DOMINO AND ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE AFFECTED BY OMC !! I think this person should re-think their statement and this time try not to be so self-centered and selfish...think about the thousands and thousands of people this will affect ! Sorry, if I hurt anyone's feelings, but there will be alot more than feelings hurt if OMC just shuts its doors and walks away ! Thanks for your time.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Four Winns Please leave my name and E-Mail out of it. I worked at 4 winns for almost 12 years. I as well as most of the other workers tried to put out quality boats to make money for OMC and 4-Winns. I was also a line leader at one point and pushed my crew to put out the best boats possible, along with this I tolerated attitudes, and attendance problems from persons in my crew. Often I filled in 2 to 3 position at a time to make sure that the job got done, and never once put out a bad boat. I did this for the company. I would just like to thank OMC for honoring this hard work and determination with the loss of my job, and putting a strain on my family, and would really like to thank OMC for my kids going without Christmas this year. You people are inhumane, and I find it sad that the almighty dollar is foremost on your mind, and not the people that made it possible for you to get that dollar. Thanks for nothing.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: John To: Gary PolsonSubject: Re: OMC Thank you Gary and Mr. Wizard for your informative web site; you do all of us a great service. Please include me on any information you have regarding employment within this industry. This was not just a job for me, and I'd like to stay within the industry if possible. Thank you again, Regards, John
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: Clint To: wizard@virtualpet.com, clintonsue@msn.com Subject: OMC Please remove my email address I feel for all the employees at OMC. The only good thing about what has happened is we as an industry can not keep comming up with the deal of the day. We must make a profit and not chase each other into bankruptsy. OMC execs did just that. Soon, under profitted boats will be off of the market and hopefully low margin dealers will not get signed back up with competitive brands. Lets all take a wakeup pill and get this industry where it needs to be. Quality Products, Profitable Dealers, Happy Customers... Just a Boat Rep
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: Jim To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Which OMC employees are still working Dear Mr. Wizard, My company is a supplier to the boating industry. We are curious as to which OMC facilities still have employees, and what # of employees are still working at them. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: Sonny To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Banruptcy?? Hi, I just stumbled on your page doing a search for information on OMC and Hydrasports. I feel bad for all the employees who lost their job. I was a victim of a large corp. a few years back and I know what these people are going through. On the other side of the coin, this explains why I have had no response from the warrantee dept. of Hydrasports. I recently purchased one of their 2596 CC "super boats" and in 40 years of boating, the worst boat I have ever owned. At a nominal speed and moderate sea conditions, you get beat to death and have all to do to keep it in the water. I have complained about this the second day of ownership back in August 2000 and had a response from the company in October 2000. That was the last I have heard from them despite many attempts by email and snail mail plus phone calls. Looks like the consumer is going to suffer along with the employees. Once again I express my sympathy to all those workers. Sonny
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: Alf To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: (no subject) I am a retiree from milwaukee. The money that they have spent in closing the milwaukee plant probably did them in. They couldn't get the machining done in ohio like they thought they could. Machinist from milwaukee were sent to ohio to see if they could teach people how to run machines that were outdated. The money spent in ohio could of been used to buy new machines and trained new people in milwaukee. instead they looked for cheap labor.
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: D To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Mr. Wizard: Heard anything lately on OMC? I didn't see any changes in your reports this morning....I am anxiously waiting. I have been 100% OMC for the past 12 years, and am totally dependent on them (which I hate and will not let this happen to me again). Please reply. D in Texas
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: DAN To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Spruce Pine Mr. Wizard, I worked at the Spruce Pine N.C plant. We were told we were the best in the world at lost foam casting. If this is so, who do you think would be intersted in buying such a advanced operation?

Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 From: G To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: feed back from omc shut down it wouldnt have been so bad if they would have just told the truth but to find out im laid off and the company is backrupt on the evening news is cowardly aint that a shame? tsk tsk for shame thanks for yer support
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: Rob To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Will Survive Hello Oh Great Wizard, My affiliation here is as an exclusive OMC Dealer, all my eggs are in their basket. I have not made the decision at this point to jump ship and take up with a competitive brand and I fully believe I will not have to. The way I see it, I could do a couple of things right now, cry in my beer and talk about all the bad things OMC's internal problems have created for my dealership, or I can look to move on. This is one of those times when we need to look at the positives we still have at hand. As a Dealer I have a very viable profit center in my service department. During times of poor sales it has always carried us through. As a displaced employee use your strong motivation to succeed, along with good work ethic, and you will always find a way to prosper. Your talents havent left you. What has happened has not been intentional. I don't think anyone went out of their way to purposely disrupt all our lives. Each morning I take a look across my well stocked showroom (of OMC product mind you) and notice most pointedly that "The sun did come up one more time!" This may sound sarcastic, it's not intended to, my point is that life will go on. (Trying to make a feeble attempt at humor also helps to keep me from crying!) The only direction we will go from here is up. My tie with Princecraft Boats is strong today and it will continue to be with the new ownership. As they will most assuredly resume construction in the near future, we will continue to represent them, proudly! (At whatever margin I choose to, "Clinton the Boat Rep") It is my hopes that a Gentleman the likes of a Roger Penske or Irwin Jacobs is able to purchase the remains of this company. Not just an investor or another big faceless corporation but a person interested in putting their name on the product. Put the good (although presently laid off) people who have dedicated themselves to building a line of first class marine products back to work doing just that. I have long felt OMC has produced the #1 Outboard Motor on the market. As production one day is soon to resume, so will sales. Under proper new ownership we will all move on to better days. Santa, I know I am a little late with this request, but this is what I want for Christmas! You know I believe in you. You also know I believe in God and have as well taken my case to his high power. (I figured a 2nd although belated request to the red guy of the north couldn't hurt!) This is not a comfortable time for any of us who are deeply involved. Missed paychecks don't feed your families. "Unlikely to be sold today" engines do nothing to feed my children either. But better times are ahead. Some of us will move on to different maybe better things. Some dealers will close up shop, some may not ever get rid of their resentment for the circumstances. But some will set their goals on surviving to fight another day with OMC. I myself am signing up with this last group. Keep your heads up, it a little dark right now, but the sun will return tomorrow. Rob
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: P To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Shutdown Please do not use my name or e-mail address. Sign me as "P" I was an employee at the Calhoun facility for 6 1/2 years, and had worked at another facility that OMC shut down back in 1990. I have read all of the reader feedback and agree that OMC has suffered from poor decision making and aloof management. Our finished goods inventory had been growing for some months, yet we ran our lines, maxed out, 60 hours a week up until October. Seeing that our schedule was based on a marketing forecast, we should have seen it coming months ago. In the past, when slow times were seen coming, we would shut down for a given amount of time. For us, as a company, to have been so far in debt, we could have taken down time, shortened hours, or other means necessary to save money and keep afloat. To run the business into the ground is like draining the oil from your engine and then taking off on a trip......you just run it until it quits. I am not a finanicial whiz an! ! d know nothing about wheeling and dealing at the level that Greenway does, but either they missed the boat (pardon the pun) or this was the plan and it worked perfectly. We probably will never know....it's just a game of monopoly at the Soros level. Big business is a cold business. They owe nothing to us former employees, and nothing is what we got. They had no sense of the history, the glamour, the uniqness that is the Marine Industry. And certainly Greenway had no thoughts of the 6000 employees that have been affected at this particular time of year. Including my time working for dealers, I have been arouund the business over 25 years, exclusively with OMC products.....I loved every minute of it! I read the feedback letters that speak of their loyalty to their jobs and to OMC products. I know from experience that that kind of loyalty is very hard to give a second time when you have been thrown out with todays trash. To my fellow OMC workers at all of the facilities, especially workers from the Calhoun facility: You were the greatest....all of the hours, all of the frustration, and you prevailed. Though the company has failed, it was thru no part of yours. Good luck to all of you! It was my pleasure to have been your co-worker. Do not use my name or e-mail address. Sign me only as "P"
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 From: W To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC problems, an offer to save a sinking ship Fourty years ago I worked for this company. The culture was excellent, and the product without question reflected the integrity and pride of the people who made it. I left a good marketing position as I was young and the structure didn't offer me advancement. I later utilized my vision of this fine Midwestern company and its pride to help restructure another Midwestern great Harley Davidson. Harley had been banged up by outside financing and people who had no respect for their culture. Needless to say Americans Believe in supporting these type of companies and still love their heritage's. I hated to see what was happening at OMC, but now feel that someone who can respect the true value of this heritage should do all that is possible to rescue the company and its fine employees. Can this effort be successful? I am positive it can if the rescue team will step back from computer terminals, spreadsheets, and legal jibwash and focus on a single goal. This goal should be to truthfully discuss with all employees, dealers and related professionals what must be done to facilitate an orderly rebirth of this great American company. In closing let me say that after all these years have passed I carry in my heart part of the OMC culture. I still think of ten of Ralph Evinrude,Bill Scott, Finn Irgens, Tom Kalfus,Jim Webb, Howard Larson and many others of my contemporaries. What would they do at a time like this? I am sure of one thing, they all believed as I do that the rescue must be made post haste, and plan presented to the judge must carry with it an endorsement by all the outstanding employees who alone can guaranty the successful rebirth of this great American institution. I offer my services to any rescue team on a gratis basis, to help the faithful employees errace from their minds this unpleasant chapter in their lives, and to move on to positive and fruitful new horizons for OMC. I am sure that the largest asset on many corporate balance sheets never appears in print. I am referring to loyalty, and dedication of the employees which is the corporate culture I refer to. Lets figure out how to salvage this together. I will give my part in this as a former employee to help in any way. Sincerely, W.
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:08:58 -0800 From: Tommy To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: beloit wi/plant as i am not a employee of omc,im just curious,why is there not any info on the beloit w,i. plant,in your colum or in any other print? to those that dont know the beloit wi.plant was iddled in dec. with no time for preperations, they just closed the doors.now people are struggling with the company to get there pensions out to roll over to other means. greast company i see,no wonder i dont work for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: an To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: omc of Syracuse Indiana We are out of work also.I see stuff about Ill,Mich.But what's going on as a whole that will effect us.We were told on Dec 15 2000 we would receive two weeks pay also two days vacation pay plus a bonus check on the 21 of Dec. We only got one weeks pay.We were told there would be no more checks given out.What are we to do in the week or two.They should gave us some warning!!! OMC put the screws to lot of people not only in Ill,Mich, Ind, but all over. A Syracuse Indiana Employee
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 07:34:50 -0500 From: XXXX To: "'wizard@virtualpet.com'"Subject: Greed is the root cause ** Please remove my name and e-mail address should you choose to post this. Thanks! ** Dear Mr. Wizard, I have been following the sad tale of OMC's demise, primarily via your web site. Thank you for the breath and depth of information that have provided. I have found it difficult to locate other sources of information on the subject. Please keep up the good work! Clearly the former OMC employees are those whom will be impacted most immediately and deeply, there will also be legions of others significantly harmed by the failure of this company's management to do it's job. As is usually the case in these situations, those responsible for the failure will be the least impacted and most able to recover from any potential harm. My role in all of this is as a consumer of OMC products, specifically a pair of brand spanking new Evinrude 225 Ficht Ram drives (standard and counter-rotating) that I purchased in October of this year and a 1999 8hp Evinrude purchased new about a year ago. At the time of the transactions, I fully believed that OMC was producing high quality drives and would be around to support them over their useful lifetimes. Now, while I still feel that my very expensive new drives are possibly the best thing going from a technology standpoint, I'm going to off-load them to the first fool I can find! With a little over 10 running hours on the 225s, they are barely broken in and now I must take a financial bath in disposing of them (not to mention purchasing a replacement set of Yamahas or Mercs). Regardless of the final disposition of the drive portion of OMC, I for one will never own another OMC product, no matter what manufacture may decide to acquire them! Purchasing the 225s was a real financial stretch and selling them now, if that is even possible, will be even worse. To add insult to injury, the 225s are certainly the best performing drives I have ever owned, and I have had several. I cannot express how angry I am over the complete incompetence demonstrated by OMC's management. Unfortunately, such behavior is endemic in American business, especially during this "so called" economic boon. It won't be long before anything worth purchasing is produced overseas. Nothing matters in America except how much coin the top executives can cram into their already over-stuffed suits. May Soros, Greenway and company all burn in hell. Never, never buy anything produced by a privately held company. At least publicly traded companies have more stockholders to answer to. Anybody interested in a very lightly used pair of 225s? Buying them used, you get the same warranty and service I have, WHICH IS NONE, but will save big coin... until you need parts that is. Regards, XXXXX
Date: 29 Dec 00 07:35:51 EST From: XXXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Burnsville.. Again, do not use my email or name.. I am fully aware of the impact the closing of OMC will have on the economy, considering this is the second plant closing in this area. If OMC had been better managed, none of this would have ever happened. I worked not only in assembly but I was a machinist for over a year. You could not begin to count how many times I was told to run blocks that were warped, the calibrations were off, the cylinder walls were bored out to much..I could go on and on but what is the point. Employees and consumers alike should thank managers like Dave Rusche for such poor quality and should thank Frank Wheeler and Harold Smith for screwing over the employees. Also, many other workers and I were told to use Loctite on blocks to hold them together until they could be shipped to Calhoun. As long as the product made it out the door, what did it matter. Seems to me, if one of these motors made it to the consumer, not only would they have a defective product, someone could get killed if it blew up in the water. Is that the kind of company you would like to buy a product from? I do not think so. How many times have you had to breathe paint fumes because no one would come and fix the problems with the ventilation systems, or how many times you were told you were going to get your head blown off by an irate painter? How many times have you had to dodge someone throwing cylinder heads because they were told they had to pull another Saturday? OMC employees have no one to blame but the managers themselves. By the way, in case you did not know, the managers told the Burnsville employees long ago if a union was voted in, they would shut and bolt the doors, so I guess that made me non-union. I do not need to rethink my statement. It stands. OMC has ruined many lives, the health of many employees, and if that is not enough, think of all the sea gulls they have killed. Does the quality of the employees health mean nothing? It is quite obvious you never worked at the Burnsville plant.
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 07:07:42 -0600 From: Joel To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Time is running out My Guess is that I am not the only Dealer contemplating what to do next. I have precious little time to prepare for the season. I am an OMC dealer and have heard nothing from them. Is there no person who is aware of the predicament that dealers are in. We are sitting on product that for all practicle purposes has no company backing them. We will be in boat show season next week.. If we do not hear something positive about a buyout by early next week. Most of us will have no choice but to hire lawyers and hope for the best.
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:51:07 EST From: P To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Lowe and Princraft I have heard that the old owners of Lowe Boats and Princecraft are in the process of buying there Boat companies back. If this is true which I am 90% sure it is, this is a very good sign. This could mean that there is definitely deals going on behind closed doors on all the plants and it could be just a matter of time before the news starts to leak out. everyone pray this is true.
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: C To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: help for NC OMC workers North Carolina has a one-stop career center system known throughout the state as JobLink. These offices offer a coordinated approach to helping job seekers and include representatives from the local community college, Employment Security Commission, Workforce Investment Act, Department of Social Services and others. Each of the NC counties with an OMC plant also has a JobLink Career Center. This is the first place an OMC worker should visit! The range of services varies from center to center, but all basic job readiness and job search services should be available at all. The web site for NC's system provides more information including address and phone number for each center. http://www.joblink.state.nc.us
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:55:54 -0300 From: Ruben To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Pregunta sobre todo lo que está en la informacion ¿ Sería bueno que nos pasaran esta información en Español? Deseo enterarme de lo que pasa en el exterior, pero no hablo Inglés. Con el debido respeto, no me lo podrían pasar al Españól. A la espera de vuestra respuesta, agradesco profundamente. Ruben RBBI Comment: Altavista machine tranlsation rerturned English below: It would be good that they passed this information to us in Spanish? Desire to find out to me which it happens in the outside, but I do not speak English. With the had respect, me they could not happen to the Espa6nól. To the delay of your answer, agradesco deeply. Ruben
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: Ruben To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Pregunta sobre toda la informacion Mister Wizard: De mi mayor consideracion: Abusando de su tiempo, sería mucha molestia pedirle si toda esta informacion pudiese venir en Español. Me gustaría enterarme de lo que pasa en el mundo, como usted lo relata. Pero el problema es que no domino el Ingés. Sé positivamente que para usted traducir esto es muy facil. Perdón por el atrevimiento, y muchas gracias. Ruben Argentina. RBBI Comment: Altavista machine tranlsation rerturned English below: Mister Wizard: Of my greater consideration: Abusing his time, it would be much annoyance to request to him if all this information could come in Spanish. I would like to find out to me of which she happens in the world, as you relate it. But the problem is that I do not dominate the Ingés. I know positively that for you to translate this you are very facil. Pardon by the audacity, and thank you very much. Ruben Argentina. RBBI Additional Comments: we furnished the AltaVista babel translator link to this gentleman which allows free instant machine translation of this site. http://world.altavista.com
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: unemployed in NC Mr. Wizard, Please omit my name and email address. I was employed at the Spruce Pine OMC facility for two years, my husband for three. We are still somewhat in shock at the sudden closure of our plant, but more than that we were appalled at the way we got notification of it. We worked on Dec. 11, and were told that the Christmas shut-down had been extended and we wouldn't be working any more until Jan. 15. We were wished happy holidays by our supervisors, who knew nothing either, and we went on our merry way. On Dec. 21 we got news, on Channel 13 no less, that we no longer had jobs. We have to date received no letters, no notification of any kind, pertaining to the shutdown, 401K, or anything else. We did get checks for outstanding vacation pay, for which we are thankful, and we are looking for other employment. I will miss the folks I worked with, and I am sure the local businesses will miss the money we spent there. Although I have no idea what went wrong with OMC as a whole, we at the foundry saw first hand some of the mistakes that over the long term brought it to its knees. I can only hope that if it somehow comes back as another company it's handled better the second time around. My prayers are with all of you who were laid off, and I know faith in God, and a hopefully recovering economy, will see us all back on our feet soon. Thinking of you in NC
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: s To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Job information posting Arctic Cat Inc., based in Thief River Falls, Minnesota, designs, engineers , manufactures and markets snowmobiles and all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) under theArctic Cat brand name, as well as related parts, garments and accessories. The Company markets its products through a network of independent dealers located throughout the contiguous United States and Canada, and through distributors representing dealers in Alaska, Europe, the Middle East, Asia and otherinternational markets. We are currently seeking candidates for many openings in our Snowmobile and ATV Engineering Departments. Current and future opportunities include: mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) engineers, two stroke engineers and four stroke engineers. Please contact Terry Blount, Vice President of Human Resources at: tblount@arcticcatinc.com or by telephone at (800) 279-0179 for more information or email your resume to: jobs@arcticcatinc.com.
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: MIKE To: wizard@virtualpet.com To the guy with the 25 hydrasport,your problem with your boat is the set up.Needs 4 blade props and toe in must be changed to toe out.Also drop the motors all the way down.Hydrasport will take care of this if they come back with the good people they have had.Your dealer should helpe with this.Lets get over this mess and this will just look like a small problem.I am a dealer who cares, 100% omc the past ten years.All we can do is sit and pray.YES some dealers care...........mike
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: Judy To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: chris craft shut down I have not seen any articles about the problems facing the florida workers Is there any speculation on who will buy chris craft Promises of Accrued vacation was made then revoked. No one in management even showed up to let the workers know of this
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 From: M To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: First Impressions I am really saddened by the layoff. I am fortunate that I don't have children depending on me like some. I can only imagine how hard it is on them. I wish everyone affected by this the best of luck. I will really miss all the people I worked with. The thing that really gets me to the core is the Rat XXXX Chapter 11 Mansion Dwelling Investment group. You would think that as a human being with any semblance of a conscious that 6000 people's welfare would come before dollar signs. I mean 2 weeks, 1 weeks notice .. even waited until after Christmas. No notice is just ludicrous and morally wrong! Is money so important that it comes before sparing families heartache, panic, and misery? Tell me this didn't cross their mind at least once! I personally would go destitute before I would hang thousands of people out to dry. People with their kind of wealth and power have a responsibility to society. They could have chosen a better way to handle the situation, but evidently chose to turn a bad situation into a disaster. All I can say is that I hope to never again be involved with a company who's driving force (and this refers to NO ONE I worked with at my plant including management!) treats their workforce so poorly! This was my first job outta school.... what an experience man! Go to XXXX Sorros!

Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 From: Joel To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Curse Mr. Wiz, I am cursed by eternal optimism. I believe that , if the major components of OMC are sold immediately, we can still have a good year. Employees and dealers can have their lives back. However; immediate is the key word here. Once the season begins without Evinrude and Johnson et.al. there will be no chance to fully recover. I am in a market where most of the good brands are taken. Next week is telling for us. My heart goes out to all who have lost here, we do still have a chance to salvage this situation. Let us pray. I am looking for some good news on Tuesday. Wow !!! What an optimist.
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 From: XXXX To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Seagulls were decently treated ! pls don't use my real name or email address. just wanted to defend OMC on their treatment of the "Seagull Situation". have you ever seen 2500 seagulls? have you ever seen what twenty five hundred seagulls can deliver in one season? well i have! good god it was just awful. thousands of baby chicks, running around, getting hit by traffic, Dying of Thirst Because They Couldn"t Get to the Lake Because of Fences All Over the Place ....bird guano Everywhere ! so much of it it was like snow had come in july.... and the smell when the rain came, like a slaughter house. that was the year of the carnage. the next year OMC hired guys to fire off harmless cannons to scare off the roosting pairs. they also would played screeching howls over load speakers to try and scare off the would be nestors. it worked....all 2500+ landed at the gypsum plant....what a sight... anyway, OMC treated the animals very decently. there really was a sanitary need to move the animals somewhere else. it took two years to move the flock away. i am a just laid off employee....but you all need to know, OMC management did what was right where the birds were concerned. I just wonder how much money they spent on this issue? just a fyi, ex-employee typically screwed over by OMC as far as my lay off was concerned ...another whole topic!
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:36:00 EST From: M To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: no pay for unused vacation You ex-OMC-ers may have been surprised as I was to find your final paycheck not the amount you expected. I received a copy of letter from Mr. Rusk that said the court approved payment of final wages, but not unused vacation (i.e. not used before Dec. 21st). Maybe the court will change their mind later. Any guesses?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:19:37 EST From: H To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: good assessment....and a few thoughts Hi wizard.... I believe I am witnessing a first in this industry. Been in it going on 30 years...but to see a website focused on a industry giant whose very future may greatly reshape this industry....well, I am just glad I learned something about this computer over the last few years to see this! Your assessment (and thoughts of many others) are very interesting....but what at the moment is going to be interesting to watch is how this website may have a lot of bearing on exposing how this all happen in the first place. Got my thoughts...but more interested in seeing how this shakes out. Yep....I do think this website and what happens to OMC over the next 90 days is going to make a lot of people in their ivory towers think and act a bit more responsible in the future...not only at the future OMC...but even at the other motor giants that for so long have controlled the course of this industry. No names have to be mentioned for many of us to know where the buck's been passed around.... OMC will be back...leaner and meaner....and maybe at long last focused on making profit and building motors! These people that are hurting right now...(dealers and OMC employees) may see these dark days as finally bringing about changes that have been long overdue. Boat people should build boats and motor people should build motors! Then they both can be profitable. the "wheeling-dealing" of OMC's past upper management over the last 15 years....has been grossly irresponsible to its employees...loyal dealers and this industry in general. Stockholders should have called management a long time ago for some it's deals made to "buy transoms at any cost!" Some of those deals are much better left to letting the compitition have em..... wish there was a way to reassure those employees that most of them will be back to work in the near future. This event will past.....I just hope that each division winds up in good hands and the upper management that put them here over the last 15 years with some really dumb egotistical mistakes has nothing to do with it's future. will follow your site with great interest. I think your assessments are close....but your choices of future owners is going to envolve many different names....not one. Its only my thoughts.....but I do hope OMC motors stays american owned! I think that is still very possible. But a seperation of the motors from the boat divisions is very likly. best wishes and thoughts for the employees of OMC....keep the faith. Those of you that really care about the company will once again be a part of its future. Smart managers know that a caring employee is one of a companies major assets. Things just get wacko though when upper managment's morals are a bit lacking or closes its mind and ears within an ivory tower. Bout the worse thing that could ever happen is calling in the so-called experts to figure out whats wrong. If managment can't figure that out on its own.....its too far from whats going on in the field. Been part of three turnarounds in this industry from positions worse than this...though not as big. OMC is too big a force in this industry for it not to turnaround even at this late stage. The key rest in who winds up in control and that person's management style and experience. Chapter 11 is not the end of the road....but just means things can't go on like it is! Thats what the law was designed for....a bit of serious re-organization! Ithe sun will rise again on Johnson and Evinrude. The boat divisions might rightfully wind up once again controlled by boat people...which is as it should be. Alliances make a lot better sense than ownership when it comes to outboards. Once again to the employees at OMC....my thoughts and prayers goe with you that you wind up owned by the right people.....but it will be back. Keep the faith. And Mr. Wizard....love your site. H.
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 14:33:12 -0500 From: c To: polsong@virtualpet.com Subject: omc shut down in burnsville i am a husband of a omc employee and have never heard of a company doing its employees this way. my wife only worked at the burnsville plant for three years but we depended on that money. the least omc could have done is let everyone know what was going to happen.and dont tell me they did not know. and now im hearing that they think they cannot get sued because they filed for chapter 11. well they have another thing coming.the employees should sue for violation of the warn act.which is a federal law and iv also heard they are trying to steal the 401k money i hope they try so they can spend some time in a federal prison!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 From: Rob To: polsong@virtualpet.com Subject: Re: OMC Will Survive Hello Gary & Mr. Wizard; I would like to thank you for taking the time to personally respond to my letter. You are to be commended for the service you have provided each of us who have been effected by this unfortunate action. As for my prior comments, "When its raining lemons"..... you know the story. One way or another my company will find it's way through. I know we are going to take a big hit, this won't be fun. In a Homily I witnessed a couple of weeks ago our Priest was speaking about experiencing a great loss in your life. He mentioned that it was at that time you needed your faith most. He is right. My optimism comes from my faith. I know materially I am on the escalator going down. But as far as the things that matter most, I'm right on the level. Once again, thank you for your service. Rob
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 From: L To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC the second death watch. I'm from Peterborough, Ontario, Canada. The original home of Evinrude, Johnson, Pioneer Chainsaws, Lawnboy, Snowcruiser and a host of other once great Canadian outdoor leisure products. I grew up with all the products, worked on them, owned them, cursed at them and enjoyed the many years of service. I however hated the company and what they did to Peterborough and the mess of pollution and economic carnage they left behind when they left our great little town. I vowed never to own another. A great dealer brought me back this summer to purchase a Lowe pontoon and Evinrude 4 stroke for family fun. I found out today of the news and my heart goes out to the families of those companies. My first instint is good ridence and goodbye, as it took from the turn of the century to build up a great economic base here to the 80's and only 20 odd years to destroy a proud family of products. Up to this summer I watched year after year the failures of OMC technologies and arrogance to admit their drives were the worst, hence not wanting ever to purchase a new one. I know my 4 stroke is a Suzuki and will stand the test of time along with the Yamaha that is now 13 years old and still ahead in techology than a new OMC 2 stroke. The Lowe Pontoon, has a few warranty issues and my dealer is already in contact with us to address those issues. I hope all those thousands of employee's find work again world wide. I have seen this before and what it does to product image and customer faith. Bury the name this time, don't give it a third strike. Good riddence and goodbye to an old friend whose time has come. We miss the old days and the waterways it opened up in Canada.
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 From:B To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: So Sad I work for a company that supplies OMC. We are in the dark also. No one from OMC contacted us either. We heard it through the grapevine too! I just want to let the people whom dedicated their lives to OMC to know that they are in our hearts and Prayers during this time of hardships.

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 From: Joel To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Optiimist feels faint Mr. Wizard, I am certain that the buyers and the sellers of OMC components are aware of the time factor. I know that if we do not get an assurance of warranty by next week, this situation will crumble. The catch is that Once OMC boats and motors are seen as having no warranty and no company its over. We have no product. Instead we have millions of dollars tied up in merchandise that is worth fifty cents on a dollar. Also, you will see a mass exodus, as dealers will replace product with viable alternatives which have marketability. Seller, you ain't getting top dollar. Buyer, if you do not close the deal now, you are not going to have a dealer net work. Finito
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 From: Eye To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: Who's to blame? Dear Mr. Wizard and all who are concerned, Just felt a need to put in my (anonymous please) two-cents worth. A special thank you goes out to Mr. Wizard for his diligent coverage of the events surrounding OMC's recent release. Being an OMC dependant employee for near nine years and a student of life, in general, for more than 36 years, I have some rather mixed feelings about the turn of events that have evolved from the demise of OMC. I would first like to note that the OMC company I worked for was run by an outstanding group of people. From the floor to the office, every employee I knew shared a special devotion to the products we crafted. Our hearts went into our work and spirits were with those of us who were in dire need. We were there for the community and the community was there for us. It is tough to get ahead in this old world, but the opportunity was certainly available to those who were willing to reach out and grab it. It's so easy for us to all point the finger when things get rough. Sure, OMC could have probably given us a little more warning, but as a company who was trying to pull themselves out of a bad situation, that probably wouldn't have been their best recourse. Such an announcement would most likely assured their demise, because it is most likely that most of the employees would have left soon after. Leaving OMC with no hope of recovery. For anyone who was paying attention, the writing has been on the wall for several months. I was not the least bit surprised by the news. Perhaps we should also be looking at ourselves. Have we made the best use of the resources we had at our disposal? Could we have put a few dollars away for a rainy day? Should we have invested in some credit insurance? Did we put all of our eggs into one basket? Don't get me wrong, I surely can't defend every action that has been taken by OMC. I don't think it was fair that some people were paid their final vacation period... some people were promised that pay then disappointed at the last minute... and still others were left completely in the dark. To sum things up, I guess what it all boils down to is that life is a tough game to play. Anyone who expected it would all be peaches-n-cream is a fool. Many of us still have plenty of time to recoup from this incident and build a sound future for ourselves. Some of us may have procrastinated too long or not really put anything into our futures at all. Maybe this will help us all to see the bigger picture just a little more clearly. Life is no rose garden and to get something out of it, you have to put something into it. On a final note, lets not forget that things that seem bad can often turn out to be the best things that have ever happened to us. Don't walk around with your eyes closed... your opportunity may be just sitting there waiting for you to grab it. Look for it! Look for tomorrow and be ready when it arrives.
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 From: Drew To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC is not the God I serve What a shock we felt when we saw the CNN ticker announcing the Chapter 11 filing Christmas morning. To say it has dampened our spirits is an understatement. We have been OMC dealers for over 20 years and we know for a fact that these are the finest products around. We will be reopening on Tuesday to face a lot of questions we cannot answer. We will be in our boat show in about two weeks and we do need answers. But the thought came to us a few days ago after sleepless nights and nervous days, no one but the Lord Jesus directs our paths as believers our prayers are for answers but we realize not matter what happens, God will continue to be our God, not OMC or anyone else. Dealers, employees pray for one another and be thankful with grateful hearts. "Be still and know I am God" saith the Lord. We believe OMC will be bought out and stronger than ever, but it may take time. It is hard to wait .....
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 From: L To: wizard@virtualpet.com Subject: OMC Andrews Quality I have been employed by the Andrews facility for more than 1